Recently Liekele Helmus in the Netherlands, my sister Janet Haan and I began corresponding regarding the Helmus family. Janet and my mother was Rose Alice Helmus. We can use this topic as a starting point and then build some Helmus pages.
Liekele Helmus wrote:
> Hi Ed and Janet,
> When reorganizing my Outlook Express I found your email and sent a copy to Janet
> while she very recently sent me an email not knowing that you are brother and sister!!
> Small world yeah yeah!
> I just visited the www.Teune.com
website and my compliments!
> What an impressive photo!
> I will add a few things.
> I assume you have my details abt the birth of Ate Helmus and his parents?
> I will try to contact somebody to search the the birth certificate of Ate.
> I did not find the marriage of Ate´s parents. May have been in the province of Groningen.
> Neither the marriage of Ate himself. He may have left for the USA unmarried.
> Maybe even his parents themselves went to the USA?
> I cant find their death records. They may even have been (inland) skippers who trekked
> various provinces..
> It seems Ate´s father, before Ate was born, was married to Anna Martens Hoekstra.
> They got 4 children. Anna died Kollumerland 24 Oct 1837 (33yrs old). Cert.99.
> Then Pieter Jans Helmus remarried 22 Jun 1850, cert. 44, Jantje Hendriks (very common name
> and seemingly without a familyname or Hendriks was her family name...).
> They first got Ate and then a Saakje (girl), born 9 Jul 1855, who died 3 Aug 1855, almost 1 month old.
> Another Saakje was born 14 Aug 1858 who probably married Harm Westra 15 May 1873, cert 35.
> Pieter Jans Helmus probably had a brother Albert Jans Helmus who married in Kollumerland 17 May
> 1845 to Luktje Jans Kieft, cert. 26. As they also had a girl Saakje, born 30 nov 1846 but before that date
> a Saakje Alberts Helmus died 1 jan 1846, only 17 days old...
> This couple, Albert Jans Helmus and Luk(t)je Jans Kieft had more childern. Details I have.
> Digging further! Will let you know!
> Liekele Lieuwes Helmus (Storm) Rinske Deutekom (Nielsen)
> Sirusstraat 52 +31640476385
> NL-1223 AP Hilversum 035 6858675
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Ed Teune
> To: Liekele Helmus
> Cc: Jan Haan ; Janet Haan
> Sent: Thursday, February 05, 2004 1:27 AM
> Subject: Re: Alice Helmus
> Thanks for the note, Liekele,
> Janet Haan is my sister. She also is very interested in our family history. She told me about the information you found regarding our Helmus ancestors. Do you know anything about the Dutch origins of John and Ate Helmus?
> Also, it would be great if both of you could post information to the Teune.com message board so everyone could see the information.
> Let me know if you need any help with this. And please let me know anything more you find out about John, Ate and their ancestors. I have pictures of some of these people and will post them on the message board.
> Liekele Helmus wrote:
>> Hi Ed!
>> I came across your email and it may be interesting to know I recently got this
>> email from Janet Haan:
>> 1) Hi Lieko!
>> My name is Janet Haan and I live in the Chicago area of Illinois in the USA.
>> My grandfather's name was John Helmus and he immigrated to the United
>> States, where he married and had 5 children: Arthur, Walter, John,
>> Walterdena, and Rose. I believe that my grandfather John had a brother Pete,
>> a brother Walter, and a sister, whose name I do not know, who married a man
>> named Jake Broersma. My grandfather and his sister both had polycystic
>> kidney disease, which is a hereditary disease of the kidneys.
>> I do not know much of the Dutch language. Can you read English?
>> Janet Haan firstname.lastname@example.org
>> My Grandfather John was born in 1885 and died in 1941.
>> 2) Thank you for all your information! Alice, born in 1887, was John's
>> wife, my grandmother. Her maiden name was Spri(e?)stma, and she was
>> from Friesland. She died of pneumonia in her 40's. Both John and
>> Alice died in America. John remarried to a Jenny Helmus who helped
>> him to raise his 5 children. John was a printer who lived in the
>> "Groningen Quarter" of Chicago, where all the Groningen immigrants
>> settled. I believe he lived in Oak Park when he died.
>> ---- Original Message ----
>> From: email@example.com
>> To: firstname.lastname@example.org
>> Subject: RE: Helmus
>> Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2004 19:18:33 +0100
>> >..I came across this info on a w/s
>> >Helmus, Alice, b. 1887, d. 1932, Mother, n/t John Helmus, [DH]
>> >Helmus, Ate, b. 1851, d. 1927, Father, n/t Wolterdiena Helmus, [DH]
>> >Helmus, John, b. 1885, d. 1941, Father, n/t Alice Helmus, [DH]
>> >Helmus, Johnny, b. 1912, d. 1918, [DH]
>> >Helmus, Wolterdiena, b. 1856, d. 1913, Mother, n/t Ate Helmus, [DH]
>> >Is Alice then John´s sister perhaps?
>> Liekele Lieuwes Helmus (Storm) Rinske Deutekom (Nielsen)
>> Sirusstraat 52 +31640476385
>> NL-1223 AP Hilversum 035 6858675
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: Ed Teune
>> To: Liekele HELMUS
>> Sent: Wednesday, August 28, 2002 12:27 PM
>> Subject: Re: Alice Helmus
>> Thanks for the question Liekele,
>> I posted your question on my website for others to see.
>> Here is some more information about Rose Alice Helmus parents:
>> Rose Alice Helmus' dad was John Helmus and he married Alice Spritsma, who was born Jan.25,1887, died Feb.13,1932. John and Alice were burried in Forest Home cemetery between First Avenue and Desplaines Avenue, where their birth and death dates are on their headstones located south of the Eisenhower and JUST west of the waters of the Desplaines river, next to a little shack that must house lawn mowers, etc.The info that I have from the 1920 census is:
>> Living at: 1527 14th Place, chicago. John, 34; Alice,32; sonArthur, 9; son Walter,3 and 1/2 yrs.
>> Please let me know if you have more information about John and Alice.
>> Ed Teune
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: Liekele HELMUS
>> To: email@example.com
>> Sent: Tuesday, August 27, 2002 1:30 AM
>> Subject: Alice Helmus
>> My interest is also in genealogy.
>> My daughter Alice Helmus drew my attention to yr w/s and her simular name.
>> Do you know who were Rose Alice Helmus'forebears?
>> Kind regards,
>> GARRET TEUNE was born in Chicago in 1926. He married Rose Alice Helmus.
>> They had 5 children. Janet, Helen, Gary, Kathy and Edward.
>> Rose passed away in 1988. Garret remarried in 1995 to Rita Labedz
>> Liekele Lieuwes Helmus Rinske Deutekom/Nielsen
>> Siriusstraat 52 (31) (0)35 6858675
>> NL-1223 AP HILVERSUM gsm 06 28184122
>> ICQ 60503294